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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:36 am Post subject: Kay Hagan's Stance?

I was wondering if someone could give me any insight into where Senator Kay Hagan stands on the issues we face. The following is an excerpt from the News & Observer that I was able to find:

Sen. Kay Hagan, D-N.C., stressed at the rally that jobs were her priority and that deadlines set by the act were arbitrary. "Flexibility will allow fishing stocks to rebuild and help fishing industry to thrive," she said. Hagan supports a bipartisan effort to amend the act but indicated that balancing environmental and economic concerns might be more difficult.

It sounds like she is saying she is on board, but the last sentence makes me think that she may be just saying the right things but has no intent to actually help us. In dealing with her office on other issues regarding the construction industry, I have found her to be nothing but a party line liberal who serves the special interests that bought her seat. Have any of you had any interaction with her office on this and what have you found?
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject:

I called her office earlier this week and she still has no official stance on HR1584/S1255....

Burr is on board....I think, but who knows til they vote!

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:38 pm Post subject:

That's a confusing statement by Hagan which tells me she is trying to show support right up until when she votes against it...

It should be simple, either you're for flexibility or you're not.

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject:

So she spoke at the rally proclaiming her support but now might not be in support of it?

Burr came out at the end of the rally and addressed us in an very informal Q&A session.

He had SB1255 written on the palm of his hand (no joke) and stated he supported it.
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:14 pm Post subject:

Hagan is another Obama/Lubachenko puppet.

She had something written on her hand too: NMFS - No More Fishin Suckas!!

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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:10 pm Post subject:

About what I though with her. She is a slave to unions, the DNC, and Obama. Best thing we can do is boot her out of office upon her next election (too bad Senate terms are so long).
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Ol'Salt Joined: Feb 25, 2005 Posts: 646

Check Kay Hagan's voting records and it will be obvious what her stance is on fishing issues, or any other issues that are important to legal citizens. The big D behind her name should be getting more obvious to people by now also and what that stands for in todays times. I'll lay you odds she don't give a crap. Burr on the other hand seems to be interested in sportsmen and I'll bet he's on board. If the Magnuson acts mandate is unrealistic why not just get rid of it?

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject:

Walter Jones normally stands with us. Where did he seem to be at on this??
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I wrote congressman Jones and this is what he sent back to me.

Thank you for your email regarding the South Atlantic Fishery Management Council's recent steps to significantly restrict fishing for many species of the snapper-grouper complex. I appreciate you contacting me about this issue and I'm grateful for the opportunity to respond.

As you correctly state, the South Atlantic Fishery Management Council (SAFMC) has recently taken several steps to reduce fishing for many species in the snapper-grouper complex. They have taken these steps in order to meet statutory mandates that overfishing of these species is stopped within 1 year, and that rebuilding of these species be completed within 10 years (with certain exceptions). I, for one, have long believed these mandates to be unreasonable and without any basis in science. That's why I voted against the latest Magnuson-Stevens Reauthorization Act which created them. I have also been a leader in trying to bring relief to fishermen who, under already difficult economic conditions, are bearing the brunt of the fishing limitations imposed by these requirements. For example, last Congress I introduced the Flexibility in Rebuilding American Fisheries Act, which would give councils the flexibility to extend rebuilding timeframes beyond ten years, thereby allowing fishermen more catch in the meantime. That bill has been reintroduced this Congress by Representative Frank Pallone of New Jersey, and is now known as H.R. 1584. I am also a cosponsor of H.R. 3307, which would prevent any rule restricting red snapper fishing from going into effect until a new population study of this species can be conducted.

Please know that I am very concerned about this issue and I am constantly looking for solutions. Unfortunately, until the laws regarding overfishing and rebuilding are changed, fisheries management councils in the south atlantic and elsewhere will continue to be forced by statute to implement draconian regulations that unnecessarily hurt America's fishing families and communities.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact me about this issue. If you have further questions about other federal matters, please don't hesitate to contact me.

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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject:

I think he's one of our finest.

I was thinking, these guys that meet us at the docks with their note books wanting to do a questionaire of our day/catch, we should decline to assist and pleed the 5th. We're damn if we do and damn if we don't in this industry.
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Ol'Salt Joined: Mar 02, 2005 Posts: 237

My gut by being there and not having a high regard for any politician, of any creed, color or ideaology, is Jones is in our boat, Burr is still trying to figure out what name is on the side of the boat, and Hagan sells the boat to the highest bidder that will benefit her. There you have it, my "Rest of the Story". I do not have a high opinion of politicians.

Look at this issue as a marathon and beat the crap out of your reps. That's the only way we will get them onboard.

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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject:

Chuck I think you have a very good "picture" of Hagan. I don't uderstand how she got elected in the first place. She worked both sides of the street while campaigning and never gave a straight answer. Her record in the state legislature shows she's a person that goes with what is in her best interest not the public tax payers.
Remember her negative position at election time and send her packing along with the rest of the bums!!!!!
IT'S TIME "WE THE PEOPLE" TOOK BACK OUR COUNTRY -
VOTE 'EM OUT !!!
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:03 pm Post subject:

I don't believe Hagan gives a rip about fishermen but saw an opportunity to try and grab a few votes by jumping up on the stage and spouting off some BS. I believe that most of the posts on this thread are accurate in that she will support whomever gives her the most $$$$$$
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Ol'Salt Joined: Mar 08, 2004 Posts: 1141

I was there and of all of the politicians that spoke, she was the only one that read a prepared statement. Clearly she does not know what the issues are, and I would bet my last $$ she will oppose the legislation unless she is voting with a strong majority where she can support where her vote makes no difference to the outcome.
This has a long way to go, and I strongly encourage everyone to get their friends and family to contact their legislators to vote in favor of the changes.
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:13 pm Post subject:

I contacted both Hagan and Burr. Very disappointed that I got no reply from Burr and the reply from Hagan was a canned response "Thank you for contacting my office "....blah, blah blah. I have no confidence that out NC Senators have a grasp on these issues. I will concentrate my efforts on the congressmen, particularly those who are in the eastern/coastal part of the state.

Ol'Salt Joined: Mar 02, 2005 Posts: 237

I receive Mr. Burr's weekly update via email, can the ommission of our rally be another sign he is not engaged? Start flooding him folks, not sure he gets it yet.

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The Senate â€“ and Washington â€“ returned to action this week after back-to-back snowstorms and the Presidentsâ€™ Day recess. On Wednesday, the Senate passed the H.I.R.E. Act with support from members on both sides of the aisle. While I donâ€™t think this bill is the answer to our economic woes, I am hopeful that this legislation, which will not add to the deficit, will provide tax relief to those employers who are in a position to hire and keep employees. I am disappointed the Majority Leader blocked Senators from offering amendments to the bill, but it does contain provisions that provide tax relief to small businesses, including a payroll tax holiday and a tax credit for employers who expand their operations and bring on new employees.

According to the Congressional Budget Office, the tax relief provided by the H.I.R.E. Act is offset by savings found elsewhere in government, a fact that makes it much different from last yearâ€™s â€œstimulusâ€ package that I opposed. This bill ultimately serves as an admission that last yearâ€™s stimulus package, which added over $800 billion to our National Debt, continues to be a very expensive failure. Unfortunately, the Majority is already discussing another stimulus package that will be very similar to the one they passed last year.

We need to be focusing on big-picture ideas that will actually provide an economic environment that spawns the innovation and investment needed to sustain long-term economic growth and good-paying jobs. For example, I think we have reached the critical mass needed to move forward with a game-changing idea like fundamentally reforming our nationâ€™s tax laws. Our current, complex income tax system punishes work and savings, has very high compliance costs, and rewards those special interests and lobbyists who are able to insert tax breaks that just benefit themselves at the expense of everyone else. This is not fair, and itâ€™s not good for our economy. Thatâ€™s why I think we need to consider proposals like the FAIR Tax Act or other tax reforms that would increase the savings and investment needed to fuel economic growth and job creation into the future. This is an issue I hope to work on with like-minded colleagues in the coming months.

I have received correspondence from a lot of you this week on the decision by the Department of Defense to terminate the My Career Advancement Accounts (MyCAA) program, which provided tuition assistance to the spouses of America's military servicemen and women. I was shocked to learn that MyCAA has been suddenly shut down without giving spouses any prior notice and any reason why. This program was providing valuable educational assistance to over 50,000 military spouses at the time of its termination. At a time when we are demanding so much from our military families, these spouses deserve an immediate answer from the Department of Defense on why this program has been ended indefinitely. To read a letter I sent to Secretary Gates on this issue, click here.

Another event this week that garnered a lot of media attention was the Presidentâ€™s bipartisan summit on health care. My speculation that this would amount to little more than political theatre proved to be true, though there were some rather substantive policy discussions â€“ and continued policy disagreements. Rather than listening to the American people and starting fresh on health care reform, the goal of this summit seemed to be for the President to gain support for his proposals among members of his own party in the House of Representatives. One good thing came out of the summit, however, and that is that no one can say Republicans don't have alternative solutions. We do have ideas, and our alternatives have been out there all along. In fact, I introduced the Patientsâ€™ Choice Act ten months ago.

I predict that the Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid will try to wrap up health care reform within the next month, so stay tuned as this debate picks up steam.

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:03 am Post subject:

Guess it is time to get down to basics, start at our home ports...a friend mine is going to his county...his is what is purposing...

"In your representative counties, especially the coastal communities which are directly affected by these closures, have your county councils draw up a resolution that opposes closures off your coast that are associated with the management councils proposed closures.

You can also do this in Citys that are directly affected by these closures.

This will send a strong message to Washington!

To do this contact your representatives and discuss drawing up a such a resolution."

I also think that it is time to get our governor, Bev Perdue on board with us. I feel that we need to go to Raleigh as a group and meet with her. She needs to be pressured to help us and get our state to back this "No Catch Shares".
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:12 am Post subject:

SC has passed resolutions demanding the closures be reversed

Horry county has started the process identified above

Good idea
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:13 am Post subject:

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:27 am Post subject:

Capt. John,

I bet we can get more Carolina fishermen to Raleigh than we had in D.C.

When is the Raleigh March??
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject:

Capt Lee and Capt John Why don't you two get it started by talking to Capt. Dave putting something on this site for a trip to Raleigh. I'll talk to Capt. Stanman and we'll put an announcement on his site. I'll also speak with the owner of ncangler.com and topsailangler.com. Can someone contact ncwaterman.?
Come on guys let's do this... The life of our sport and living depends on us getting invovled.
Capt. John I'll see you at the Onslow Bay Saltwater Fishing Club meeting and you, I and Stanman can discuss doing this..
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject:

March on Raleigh: I am in...

I just wrote Bev Perdue a big check (wait til you see your 2009 NC tax liability ...) so you can bet I will be there.

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:18 pm Post subject:

Again, thanks for the response to my questions. It is what I expected. Someone asked how she got elected in the first place... well, Sen. Dole took the campaign for granted is the best way to describe it.

Union money bought Kay Hagan her seat. Just look at her stance on the "Card Check Bill" (Americann Free Choice Act). She is a paid mercenary for the left. She is one of the worst Senators for North Carolina since Terry Sanford and we need to send her a message next election.
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:45 pm Post subject:

I'm in for a trip to Raleigh. Purdue and Hagan will never help fishermen unless they think they will loose substantial block of votes. There are more fishermen in NC than there are union members. If you think unions have that much political power in NC, us fishermen should become better organized so we will be heard. I'm not suggesting a fisherman/waterman union but we could be better at helping each other to protect our access to OUR coastal resources.
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:27 pm Post subject:

Well Boys.....Lets Go To Raliegh!

NC FISHERMEN MARCH ON RALIEGH!

I am taking tomorow off....I will put something together for us ASAP! Expect to hear something Monday or Tuesday!

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