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drumchaser73 Ol'Salt


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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:39 am Post subject: Trebles on Mirrolures |
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| What size trebles do you put on Mirrolures for the ones that swap them out? I hear it gives the lures better action but havent tried it. |
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speckhunter80 Ol'Salt


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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: |
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What it does is lessen the likelihood that the trout with its "weak" mouth will be able to torque the hook and tear it out of it's mouth. I use the same hooks that are on it if they are in good shape, if not then the same size. The secret is not putting too big of a split ring on it so that the hooks don't become entangled. _________________ \"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives.\" Jackie Robinson
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drumchaser73 Ol'Salt


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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks speck, I knew this info was on one of these boards but couldn't find. Do you happen to know the size number of split ring your using? |
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ecsports Ol'Salt


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drumchaser73 Ol'Salt


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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Chris, I remembered it and looked all over for it before posting. Thanks for the help. Very informative. |
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speckhunter80 Ol'Salt


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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| drumchaser73 wrote: | | Thanks speck, I knew this info was on one of these boards but couldn't find. Do you happen to know the size number of split ring your using? |
Sorry but I don't. _________________ \"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives.\" Jackie Robinson |
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mudder Ol'Salt


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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Neil I have put #4 VMC on mine and in the past have used the #4 Eagle Claw just as Chris has in the vid and they will definitely outfish the factory #2 that mirrorlure puts on them. Some will say no way, but it has already been proven to me. _________________ Fishing to the beat of a different drum |
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drumchaser73 Ol'Salt


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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks mudder my vmc's on my king rigs rusted out fairly quick even after rinsing with fresh. |
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lookingup 1st Mate


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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| Any input on the Eagle Claw red hooks instead? I have found them to be very productive. |
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mudder Ol'Salt


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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Neil, don't understand why mine have lasted all season with only a little rust but they don't sit long before being dragged through the sand. _________________ Fishing to the beat of a different drum |
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MidnightWind Ol'Salt


Joined: Mar 16, 2007 Posts: 3041 Location: Carolina Beach, NC
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| lookingup wrote: | | Any input on the Eagle Claw red hooks instead? I have found them to be very productive. |
Don't know squat about mirrowlures, but I use the red Eagle Claw circle hooks for flounder. Have found them to be strong, resist rust, and stay sharp.
Good Luck |
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drumchaser73 Ol'Salt


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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Don't know mudder, may be bad batch?
Thanks John, gonna give the ec's a shot. |
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lookingup 1st Mate


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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey Capt. Midnight, I have switched my hand tied king rigs, and # 52 mirror lures to the red trebles and have either been real lucky or the red works better. I change my 52 electric chicken last year and landed bigger trout, a stout 9 lber., and drum than any year before. As a 5 year old once told me last year, your not holding your mouth right! Of course he had the red hooks and I had the factory hooks! He caught 6 nice ones, me 13 incher! This year I have been looking for the # 4 in red but haven't seen any as of yet. Any thoughts? |
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mudder Ol'Salt


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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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The red hooks( Eagle Claw) are very good guys I have seen some trout bites in the past where the red hooks made the difference, that's trout fishing for ya. _________________ Fishing to the beat of a different drum |
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gottafly Ol'Salt


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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Well, here is my 2 cents.
I do use the Eagle Claws for replacement but I do like the nickle plated and 4X strong
52M I use #2 and on some will drop down the # 4s to slow the sink down. A standard 52M has better action than a TT52M and the TT will sink slower than the standard 52M, I find this to be a big advantage for me in still water fishing. Also use the Catch 2000 is a #2 replacement hook.
The 17, 18s and Catch Jr 2000 I still use the eagle claw hooks and replace with 4X strong #6 hooks. Use a #4 for the 28Mr.
As for your split ring, use the smallest you can get away with. The more you change weight on a MirrOlure, the more you change the action, sometimes, not for the better.
As for the red hooks, I like them a lot but have not found a bulk price on them. I will add a red hook either the head or the tail but leave it off the middle, just me. _________________ near shore and inshore charter fishing and photography
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drumchaser73 Ol'Salt


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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for your advice Capt Lee. Your the mirrolure King. I meant to ask you this on your site. Let's hit the bays soon. |
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gottafly Ol'Salt


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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| drumchaser73 wrote: | | Thanks for your advice Capt Lee. Your the mirrolure King. I meant to ask you this on your site. Let's hit the bays soon. |
Would love to, give ma a call :) _________________ near shore and inshore charter fishing and photography
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speckhunter80 Ol'Salt


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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your input Lee. I know you are a Mirrolure Master. _________________ \"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives.\" Jackie Robinson |
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eyefish 2nd Mate


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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:19 am Post subject: |
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I'm not here to question any bodies opinion, But was wondering how you come to the assumption the a TT series has a slower sink rate than a 52 series Mirrolure? They both weight 1/2 oz, both bodies come out of the same mold at the factory. The line attachment eye is in the same place. and on the back of the package it states that the siink rate is approx 1Ft./ second. Maybe I got that backwards the 52 is slower, I've heard it both ways. :?
BTW, I use either Eagle Claw L934BPT #4 3x strong black nickle or EC red trebles again in size #4 don't know the model number but sold under Penn P-130-4 |
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mist Ol'Salt


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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| eyefish wrote: | I'm not here to question any bodies opinion, But was wondering how you come to the assumption the a TT series has a slower sink rate than a 52 series Mirrolure? They both weight 1/2 oz, both bodies come out of the same mold at the factory. The line attachment eye is in the same place. and on the back of the package it states that the siink rate is approx 1Ft./ second. Maybe I got that backwards the 52 is slower, I've heard it both ways. :?
BTW, I use either Eagle Claw L934BPT #4 3x strong black nickle or EC red trebles again in size #4 don't know the model number but sold under Penn P-130-4 |
...I LOVE tt's simply cause they be FATTER and I have always believed they sank faster.....compare the 2 side by side and U will see a FATTER tt.....Long time ago the TT's were called heavier on the box they came in..... |
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drumchaser73 Ol'Salt


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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| mist wrote: | | eyefish wrote: | I'm not here to question any bodies opinion, But was wondering how you come to the assumption the a TT series has a slower sink rate than a 52 series Mirrolure? They both weight 1/2 oz, both bodies come out of the same mold at the factory. The line attachment eye is in the same place. and on the back of the package it states that the siink rate is approx 1Ft./ second. Maybe I got that backwards the 52 is slower, I've heard it both ways. :?
BTW, I use either Eagle Claw L934BPT #4 3x strong black nickle or EC red trebles again in size #4 don't know the model number but sold under Penn P-130-4 |
...I LOVE tt's simply cause they be FATTER and I have always believed they sank faster.....compare the 2 side by side and U will see a FATTER tt.....Long time ago the TT's were called heavier on the box they came in..... |
Definitely not the same size. |
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eyefish 2nd Mate


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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess you can teach an old Dog new tricks. I went and measured with a micrometer and You are correct the TT is .075 fatter. i guess i shouldn"t question the Mirrolure master. :oops: |
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mist Ol'Salt


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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| eyefish wrote: | | I guess you can teach an old Dog new tricks. I went and measured with a micrometer and You are correct the TT is .075 fatter. i guess i shouldn"t question the Mirrolure master. :oops: |
...I was on Wrightsville Bch about Midnite about a month ago and this subject came up out there in the dark....3 of us....told the boys the TT was fatter....they didn't believe it...BUT...Held up in the old" Hat Lite" it was Clearly seen......
The original question was ..WHY are U throwing a TT Purple Demon.....I told them I wished there was a TT Nite-stalker..... |
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gottafly Ol'Salt


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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| eyefish wrote: | I'm not here to question any bodies opinion, But was wondering how you come to the assumption the a TT series has a slower sink rate than a 52 series Mirrolure? They both weight 1/2 oz, both bodies come out of the same mold at the factory. The line attachment eye is in the same place. and on the back of the package it states that the siink rate is approx 1Ft./ second. Maybe I got that backwards the 52 is slower, I've heard it both ways. :?
BTW, I use either Eagle Claw L934BPT #4 3x strong black nickle or EC red trebles again in size #4 don't know the model number but sold under Penn P-130-4 |
They got it eyefish, the TT is a wider profile than the standard 52 (and do NOT come out of the same Mold) which makes it sink slower in still water, the big thing here is still water. The wider sides on the TT also makes it have less action then the 52. If you are going to troll MirrOlures, troll the 52, not the TT. Just for note, in still water I perfer the TT over the standard 52s. _________________ near shore and inshore charter fishing and photography
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eyefish 2nd Mate


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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| I see that now, and have admitted my mistake. :oops: But in my defense I was misinformed by the guy at L&S tackle while ordering some custom color combinations, awhile back. Now I know, and it's another tool I can put into my bag of tricks |
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drumchaser73 Ol'Salt


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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| eyefish wrote: | | I see that now, and have admitted my mistake. :oops: But in my defense I was misinformed by the guy at L&S tackle while ordering some custom color combinations, awhile back. Now I know, and it's another tool I can put into my bag of tricks |
Show you can order custom made with different color combinations from L&S? |
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ecsports Ol'Salt


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Pennyd Ol'Salt


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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Lee,
In still water do you really prefer the TT over a MR14 or MR17? |
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gottafly Ol'Salt


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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Pennyd wrote: | Lee,
In still water do you really prefer the TT over a MR14 or MR17? |
Not sure you understood what I was trying to get across it my above post. What I was saying is in the 52Ms, (and only 52Ms) I will use the TT in still water.
Now as what I throw and prefer, that depends on the bait. Mullets, it is the 52Ms, bunker, it is the 17s. I love the size of the 14s but they sink faster than the 17s due to their size. I really like a bait that suspends and the Catch 2000 and the MR17s are the king here.
Another over looked bait in the colder and deeper water is the 38, Sinks at the same rate of the 52Ms but a smaller profile. I like this when the bait gets smaller. When the mud minnows are showing, move to a #4M, use the same colors you would normally use for the water conditions. _________________ near shore and inshore charter fishing and photography
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Pennyd Ol'Salt


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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Lee, After going to Mirrolure Scholl a couple of years ago I can say that my trout catching has improved greatly. I mainly fish still water and my bait of choice is the MR14. I'll try some of the other suggestions because I know the fish are still there but mu catch rate has dropped significantly since the water got cooler. Thanks for all your inout- keep it up.
What about stripers in the Cape Fear- Mirrolures of choice?? |
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